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Poster: billydlions Date: Mar 9, 2010 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An epiphany

Let's be honest here. StSt was never the tightest song as it was hard to play. How many times in 1970-1971 did Bobby flub the last verse by singing "did it..." when everyone else was singing the correct verse?

Garcia's voice was pretty bad on 1-11-78, however his guitar playing is spot on. 1-22-78 is pretty flawless, so I'm not sure what you are referring to (and I'm not sure where the flubs are in 1-11 either). And Phil's singing on the WT bridge is better than Garcia's froggy voice?

Why does one have to choose one over the other when they are all good?

This post was modified by billydlions on 2010-03-10 03:43:36

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Mar 9, 2010 8:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: An epiphany

I would never be so bold as to say anyone should have a preference for either version or enjoy both,I,m simply stating that the post hiatus versions suck.I understand that they hacked up St.Stephen pretty much every time they played it in it's 60's,70's and 80's stylings and it goes without saying that the vocals are questionable at best,after all it is the Dead.Since St.Stephen really is not about the singing and certainly not about the lyrics,the music is the important aspect and I would surely rather hear the band snort and stomp it's way through 60's style than that plodding and lame ass noodling that was the 70's version.As for the mistakes on the versions you mentioned they are not mangled,but on the 1/11 version at the pinnacle at about 8:55 he drops a nice hack ->bad vocals and the 1/22 version while not quite as off is far from flawless with various timing and intonation issues,they kick in some hacking at the 6:30-6:50 mark.Not to mention these are better versions of the 33 times they played it post 60's,the large majority are unlistenable and on the verge of unprofessional.You might say I'm nitpicking but you broached the subject of being better vocally and less mistake prone,when in actuality there is little difference in that area.I am in no way trying to belittle your opinion,I'm just expressing mine.

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